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The Verge AIUpdated Nov 4 08:35

PIMCO and Apollo Executives Warn of AI Bond Risks: Market May See a Break

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PIMCO CEO Emmanuel Roman warned at the 2026 Global Financial Leaders' Investment Summit that the AI market will see a downturn, after which "something will break," and estimated that AI buildout financing needs over the next five years could reach $2 trillion, while the total size of the U.S. bond market is about $12 trillion. Apollo President Jim Zelter likewise flagged AI risks, saying it remains uncertain how pricing and economics will evolve. A Meta bond issuance has already attracted $58 billion in orders, Alphabet plans to issue €6 billion in bonds, and Microsoft is issuing bonds for the first time in a decade, worth $25 billion.

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People, including on this staff, keep asking me with varying degrees of excitement or trepidation when the AI bubble will burst. I’ll tell you what I tell them: If I knew that, I would make a life-changing bet on the market, levered up as far as I could, and then, after I made my money, go retire on a beach somewhere. Maybe run a cat sanctuary, who knows.

What I can tell you is that I read with interest a story in Bloomberg this morning: “ Wall Street CEOs, Big Money Managers Divided Over AI Risks .” The story itself is a roundup of stuff said at the 2026 Global Financial Leaders’ Investment Summit in Hong Kong. Here’s what caught my attention: The CEO of Pacific Investment Management Co. — that’s PIMCO, the legendary bond firm — told listeners that there’s going to be a downturn in the AI market “and then things are going to break.”

The astronomically expensive AI buildout has swamped debt markets — making it harder to raise cash. But there’s still more debt coming, and people still want to buy it. For instance, Meta drew $58 billion in orders for a bond offering that’s expected to be $15 billion to $20 billion, Bloomberg reported today. Oracle said Monday it would need another $20 billion in bonds , on top of its existing steep commitments . Alphabet, Google’s parent company, is selling €6 billion (or about $6.7 billion) of bonds. Even Microsoft recently sold bonds , for the first time in a decade — $25 billion of them.

The PIMCO CEO — his name is Emmanuel Roman, but his job is what matters here — has estimated that the AI buildout could create $2 trillion in financing needs over the next five years. The entire total US bond market is about $12 trillion.

I am harping on PIMCO because it has been instrumental in the AI trade. It was among the group of financiers that did the first CoreWeave chip-based financing in 2023. It made a quick $2 billion in paper gains from $29 billion in Meta bonds , meant to support the AI buildout, last year. It bought $4 billion of SpaceX bonds last month. If PIMCO’s CEO is publicly sounding the alarm about a bubble popping, that’s a big deal — especially since the company just sold a bunch of its AI debt .

It’s not just PIMCO urging caution. Apollo Global Management, which lately had been talking with SpaceX about a $40 billion chip deal , is also warning of AI risk. Apollo president Jim Zelter told analysts today that while he expects society will use “dramatically more computing power in the future” and that AI is improving quickly, there is still significant uncertainty. “What we don’t know is how pricing and economics will evolve.”

The sheer volume of interest on Meta’s bonds suggests we are not at the top of the market. But there have been reports from China that its AI bubble burst some time ago. Meanwhile Wall Street banks were tripping over themselves to finance $63 billion in debt from Anthropic — not even a hyperscaler.

This is what I mean when I say “I don’t know.” I do think, though, that something major — PIMCO’s Roman singled out US rate hikes, war, or a eurozone crisis as potential triggers — could flip this market. We’re not in go-go-go territory now. Maybe that will change; it’s possible Anthropic’s IPO will go blockbuster and it’ll be like when someone rolls up to a party that’s running low on beer with a 24-pack. But as more people are expressing caution — and particularly after the disaster at Situational Awareness — the best part of the party might be over.

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